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Ramones presidential seal logo

An adaptation of the US presidential seal helped solidify the iconic style of the pioneering punk rock band.

Contributed by Nick Sherman on Nov 4th, 2020. Artwork published in .
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    Arturo Vega had the logo tattooed on his back with his own name incorporated and a type style that is less stylized than Tiffany. That variant, like many similar variations seen today, more closely matches most contemporary incarnations of the presidential seal. (Photo by Curt Hoppe.)
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    Arturo Vega had the logo tattooed on his back with his own name incorporated and a type style that is less stylized than Tiffany. That variant, like many similar variations seen today, more closely matches most contemporary incarnations of the presidential seal. (Photo by Curt Hoppe.)

    The Ramones are often cited as the first true punk band and one of the most important rock groups of all time. Apart from their straightforward, hard-hitting music and classic denim-and-leather clothing, a large part of their iconic style can be attributed to contributions from their long-time art director and so-called “fifth Ramone”, Arturo Vega.

    One such contribution is the now-famous logo Vega designed for the group, based on the official seal of the President of the United States. The logo, which Vogue described as being “almost as universal as the Nike swoosh”, replaces the text of the seal with the first names of the band members and incorporates a few other thematic variations. Vega explained some of the changes to Jim Bessman in the book Ramones: An American Band:

    Instead of the olive branch, we had an apple tree branch, since the Ramones were American as apple pie. And since Johnny was such a baseball fanatic, we had the eagle hold a baseball bat instead of the arrows.

    The pattern on the eagle’s coat of arms was inspired by a shirt from a store called Robbins that was a source for punks to pick up cheap clothes at the time.

    Vega had used an eagle seal for earlier Ramones graphics – including on the back of their debut album – but the full seal most people recognize today made its major debut in 1977 on the back of their second album, Leave Home. That version replaced “E PLURBUS UNUM” on the original seal with the words “LOOK OUT BELOW”. Later variants changed it to “HEY HO LET’S GO” (a reference to the chorus of their song “Blitzkrieg Bop”).

    The Ramones seal as it appeared on the back of their second album, Leave Home. The accompanying typeface is , echoing the iconic .
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    The Ramones seal as it appeared on the back of their second album, Leave Home. The accompanying typeface is Franklin Gothic, echoing the iconic use of Franklin for their first album.

    The logo – which doesn’t even include the name of the band – has also changed in other ways over the years to accommodate changes with the lineup or other stylistic variants, but the basic format of using first names and an eagle has now been used for more than 40 years. (The approach of listing first names was also used by Experimental Jetset for their popular &&& shirts, which came full circle in a variant dedicated to the Ramones.)

    Vega’s Ramones seal is well-suited for punk rock pin-back buttons. In a recent talk by Christen Carter of the Busy Beaver Button Museum, she explained the role of the Ramones in solidifying buttons as a punk rock fashion accessory.
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    Vega’s Ramones seal is well-suited for punk rock pin-back buttons. In a recent talk by Christen Carter of the Busy Beaver Button Museum, she explained the role of the Ramones in solidifying buttons as a punk rock fashion accessory.

    ITC Tiffany as offered by Letraset, including alternates for some letters.
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    ITC Tiffany as offered by Letraset, including alternates for some letters.

    A sheet of Letraset dry transfer letters for ITC Tiffany, probably not very different from what Vega used to compose the original Ramones seal.
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    A sheet of Letraset dry transfer letters for ITC Tiffany, probably not very different from what Vega used to compose the original Ramones seal.

    The original seal on the back of Leave Home is set in ITC Tiffany Medium, designed just a few years earlier, in 1974, by Ed Benguiat (who sadly passed away last month). That first seal incorporates a few manual modifications to Tiffany’s glyphs that aren’t immediate obvious. For example, The J in “JOEY” is different from Tiffany’s normal J, as seen in “JOHNNY”. Presumably this is related to a shortage of J’s on Vega’s sheet of dry transfer letters – resolved in true punk rock fashion by simply joining the top of an I with the bottom of an S (or similar). Incidentally, there was an alternate J included with Letraset’s dry transfer sheets for Tiffany, but it was a descending variant that still ended in a teardrop terminal.

    The first M in “TOMMY” also has a modified center vertex – perhaps a similar adaptation of necessity, made from pieces of an N or other glyphs.

    Though it’s not perfect, the spacing of the letters is handled reasonably well considering the physical production methods involved. Vega is quoted about these kinds of manual design techniques in a wonderfully in-depth article about the logo by Sandra Hale Schulman, saying:

    This is the way the original logo looked on the back cover of the second album, Leave Home. Yes, it’s before computers, and there was a lot of real cut-and-paste.

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    1 Comment on “Ramones presidential seal logo”

    1. Miss Debra says:
      Nov 5th, 2020 12:12 pm

      Arturo Vega was a very good friend of mine and awesome human being and a huge talented genius. He and all the Ramones are missed. I was lucky enough to model the Ramones T-shirt for Arturo Vega for many years. I love and miss Arturo very much and as he says you cannot have art without Arturo!! 🖤🖤🖤

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